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First variation Mountie

Post by j7l2 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:44 pm

Gunrunner, In 1953 the early Mounties had Ballard rifling and a 24 inch barrel with a smaller, trim forend. Was there also a variation the same year with Ballard rifling and 24 inch barrel with a larger forend? I so is this second variation desirable?
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Re: First variation Mountie

Post by Regnier (gunrunner) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:27 pm

J7I2;

I went through several catalogs of the period, and cannot find anywhere there was a 24 inch barrel Mountie with the "fat" forearm. When the "fat" forearm shows up, it is on a 20 inch barrel Mountie.
Now, that is not to say that somewhere along the line, some were produced as about anything was possible with Marlin. Frank Kenna really liked that "fat" forearm and insisted that it be made over the years when there was some desire by customers to have a slim forearm.
With Marlin, we never say never.........
But that said, if you should find a 24 inch barrel Mountie with a "fat" forearm, look very closely at the wood and make sure the forearm wood and butt stock match in finish and color. There is always the possibility that the gun was returned to the factory at some point in time and a "fat" forearm installed to replace a slim forearm.
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Re: First variation Mountie

Post by j7l2 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:47 am

Gunrunner, Thank you for the quick reply. I have checked the wood over carefully and both grain and color and finish match exactly. It also is a K prefix serial number. So I guess it comes under the Never say Never. I am undecided about buying it due to the larger forend, but it is a very clean and collectable gun. I had really wanted the slimmer forend but maybe this one is a keeper also.
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Re: First variation Mountie

Post by marlinman93 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:44 am

Sometimes guns that can't be documented as factory, just need to be examined. But even then it's sometimes tough to discern if it's factory original, factory modified, or expertly changed later. It will sometimes boil down to price, and a gut feel for the look. If it's not badly priced, and someone isn't trying to raise the value based on something they consider "rare" then it's probably not a bad purchase.
I've got some old Marlins that didn't show up in the records when I checked. But they look so unmolested, and original that I bought them anyway. Buy the gun, but not the story. Unless the story can be documented.
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Re: First variation Mountie

Post by j7l2 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:25 pm

I know what you mean. The gun looks all correct and is in excellent condition. I think it is priced a bit high. Price according to the Blue Book. I probably will try to make an offer and add it my collection. I just don't know how often the first year Mounties come along.
Thanks for your input.
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Re: First variation Mountie

Post by Regnier (gunrunner) » Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:44 pm

J7I2;

According to records, were are 4,335 Mounties made in 1953, just to give you an idea as to the rarity of these rifles.
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Re: First variation Mountie

Post by j7l2 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:55 pm

Wow. That's good to know. Makes it a fairly scarce gun.
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Re: First variation Mountie

Post by j7l2 » Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:27 pm

Well. I went and bought it. The forearm I am sure has been on the gun from new. It is in between the slim forearm and the fat forearm. Never have seen one like it. It is a K serial number and a good 97% original condition. Sights are correct and finishes are correct. I just never saw a forearm of this size.
Probably a few more out there like it. Any thoughts?
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Re: First variation Mountie

Post by Regnier (gunrunner) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:23 pm

J7I2;

If the price was right, and the condition as described, you made a good choice. There are always variations that pop up from time to time that tend to make us re-think things. As I said before, never say never with Marlin..........
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Re: First variation Mountie

Post by j7l2 » Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:31 pm

Any idea of how many total k series were made in 1953. All types.
Thanks for any info.
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Re: First variation Mountie

Post by marlinman93 » Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:49 pm

j7l2 wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:31 pm
Any idea of how many total k series were made in 1953. All types.
Thanks for any info.
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18,530 were 39A and 4,335 were 39 Mounties.
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Re: First variation Mountie

Post by j7l2 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:22 am

Thank you

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