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OLD MARLIN 22 AUTO

Postby 9945 » Sat May 16, 2009 7:52 pm

I just got an old Marlin 22lr auto at an auction....it needs a clip.........it has no model number or serial number.....can anyone tell me what i have here, and, where to get some clips....also, an owners manual would be nice.
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Re: OLD MARLIN 22 AUTO

Postby big shrek » Fri May 29, 2009 3:00 pm

Well, first ya haveta figure out what exactly it IS....a picture or two would be nice.

Could be an old 89-C/89-DL...or a 989M2 made prior to 1968...there are a few possibilities.
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Re: OLD MARLIN 22 AUTO

Postby tigweld » Sat May 30, 2009 3:21 pm

Hi,
The fact that you mentioned there is no model number or serial number on your rifle makes me wonder if you might
have a Marlin Model A1 .22 semi-auto. Does your rifle have some stamping on the left side of the barrel below the rear
sight: .22 LONG RIFLE ONLY-SMOKELESS GREASED
If so it is the Marlin A1,as this is the only Marlin model that had this stamping.
As far as a clip you can use a clip for a Marlin Model 80,25 etc. "Old Style" clip with some minor modifications to the clip.
I have 3 of the A1's in my collection now,and like you I came to this forum to find out what my first rifle was.
Hope this info helps you. :D

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Re: OLD MARLIN 22 AUTO

Postby 9945 » Sun May 31, 2009 6:10 am

tigweld wrote:Hi,
The fact that you mentioned there is no model number or serial number on your rifle makes me wonder if you might
have a Marlin Model A1 .22 semi-auto. Does your rifle have some stamping on the left side of the barrel below the rear
sight: .22 LONG RIFLE ONLY-SMOKELESS GREASED
If so it is the Marlin A1,as this is the only Marlin model that had this stamping.
As far as a clip you can use a clip for a Marlin Model 80,25 etc. "Old Style" clip with some minor modifications to the clip.
I have 3 of the A1's in my collection now,and like you I came to this forum to find out what my first rifle was.
Hope this info helps you. :D

tigweld


That's what it says...now, I know I have an A1.
Also, would like to find info on disassembly for this gun......any suggestions?
Thanks.
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Re: OLD MARLIN 22 AUTO

Postby tigweld » Sun May 31, 2009 9:06 am

As far as a disassembly guide or manual I have not ran across one yet. Have located a
online schematic diagram at (http://www.e-gunparts.com) which is printable along with a parts
list. Just click M on their alphabetical search,click Marlin,then scroll down 3/4's of the way
down the page and you'll find the A1 listing and click on that for the parts list and schematic.
Disassembly/assembly of the A1 is really not to bad,but I do have an unfair advantage, I have a Tool & Die/Gunsmithing back ground. If you would like I can try and walk you through
it. One question on your rifle,is the safety located at the rear of the receiver or on the right
side? At the rear you have the 1st variation A1,on the right side the 2cd variation.

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Re: OLD MARLIN 22 AUTO

Postby 9945 » Sun May 31, 2009 9:40 am

[quote="tigweld"]As far as a disassembly guide or manual I have not ran across one yet. Have located a
online schematic diagram at (http://www.e-gunparts.com) which is printable along with a parts
list. Just click M on their alphabetical search,click Marlin,then scroll down 3/4's of the way
down the page and you'll find the A1 listing and click on that for the parts list and schematic.
Disassembly/assembly of the A1 is really not to bad,but I do have an unfair advantage, I have a Tool & Die/Gunsmithing back ground. If you would like I can try and walk you through
it. One question on your rifle,is the safety located at the rear of the receiver or on the right
side? At the rear you have the 1st variation A1,on the right side the 2cd variation.

tigweld[/quote

Safety is on the R H side.................I have a little machine shobackground...........worked 10 years as a tool grinder.......but, am retired from the RR (conductor-freight).

Thanks again.
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Re: OLD MARLIN 22 AUTO

Postby tigweld » Sun May 31, 2009 12:14 pm

The 3 A1's I have are of the 1st variation. Other than some changes in the trigger guard,
stock,and safety its the same basic rifle action.
Disassembly of your A1 will require removal of 8 parts in this order. Receiver Bumper Retaining Screw,Receiver Bumper Screw,Action Disc,Recoil Spring,Hammer Spring, Hammer,
Bolt Handle,and the Bolt. This will strip it down to a point for basic cleaning. There are a few
tips I have for disassembly/assembly I'll pass along later. Trying to come up with a simple
description of the takedown process without overloading you.
Will have more info in a later posting.

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Re: OLD MARLIN 22 AUTO

Postby tigweld » Sun May 31, 2009 1:11 pm

9945
Just wondered if this photo of an A1 I found on the web looks similar to yours?
(http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/marlin_a1)
Does yours have a stamped steel trigger guard or the molded plastic one?

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Re: OLD MARLIN 22 AUTO

Postby 9945 » Sun May 31, 2009 5:11 pm

tigweld wrote:9945
Just wondered if this photo of an A1 I found on the web looks similar to yours?
(http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/marlin_a1)
Does yours have a stamped steel trigger guard or the molded plastic one?

tigweld


Mine looks just like the one in the photo.......it has the stamped steel trigger guard.
May be a week or two till i get to tearing it down....you can send the other info any time you want.
Thanks a lot.
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Re: OLD MARLIN 22 AUTO

Postby tigweld » Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:15 pm

9945

Here are the photos of the disassembly process of the Marlin A1 1st variation.
(www.pbase.com/tigweld/marlin_a1_1st_var) Details to follow in another posting.
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Re: OLD MARLIN 22 AUTO

Postby 9945 » Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:53 pm

tigweld wrote:9945

Here are the photos of the disassembly process of the Marlin A1 1st variation.
(http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/marlin_a1_1st_var) Details to follow in another posting.



The MCA ought to pay you to be a member...................great photos!

Wish, you had a Marlin Model 28 shotgun to photogragh ( disassembly procedure).
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Re: OLD MARLIN 22 AUTO

Postby tigweld » Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:13 pm

9945,

Here you go for the disassembly/assembly of the Marlin A1. Note is for the A1 1st variation
which I own.
1)While the receiver/barrel is still in the stock,slide the bolt all the way back to the rear.
While pulling trigger,slowly move bolt forward. This will release the spring pressure on the hammer if the rifle is cocked. This will get away from "Dry Firing" the rifle.
2)Remove the magazine then receiver/barrel from the stock.

3)Remove the receiver bumper/safety retaining screw. Remove safety/safety spring.(http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470264)

4)Using a large screwdriver or coin,turn out receiver bumper screw counter clockwise a few
turns. (http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470273)

5)Turn out the bumper screw slowly by hand the rest of the way. (Caution) it is still under
some spring pressure so remove carefully. (http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470281)

6)After the bumper screw is out you'll see the action disc and the recoil/hammer springs.
(http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470364)

7)Remove the action disc and springs from the receiver.
(http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470404)

8 )Slide the bolt all the way back to the rear of the action slot.
(http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470489)

9)Grasping bolt handle with thumb and index finger,pull handle straight out from bolt.
(http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470507)

10)While pulling trigger,push on bolt face with finger and push bolt out of the receiver.
(http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470517)

11)Bolt and hammer out of the receiver. (http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470540)
Note the holes in the back end of the bolt and hammer. Recoil spring,hammer spring and
legs of the action disc must be lined up with these during reassembly.
(http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113498890)



Will post reassembly instuctions in next posting.

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Re: OLD MARLIN 22 AUTO

Postby tigweld » Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:22 pm

Here are the instructions for reassembly of the Marlin A1 .22 semi-auto .22 semi-auto
rifle,1st variation.

1)Making sure the hammer is positioned correctly in the bolt,slide the bolt and hammer
in the back of the receiver. (http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470529)

2)Hold back the trigger,this will allow bolt and hammer to slide all the way forward. Make
sure in this process that the recess hole for the bolt handle lines up with the bolt handle
slot in the receiver. (http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470517)

3)With muzzle end of the barrel resting on the floor,look in the back of the receiver and
make sure the back of the hammer is flush to the back of the bolt. If not,a pull on the trigger will allow the hammer to fall into position.
(http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113498850)
4)Carefully line up recoil and hammer springs and action disc with the holes in the back
of the bolt and hammer.

5)Now,for the tricky part. While pushing down on the back of the action disc with the bumper screw,push it into the receiver just far enough to get the bumper screw started into the threads about 3/4'sof a turn or so. Works best to have muzzle resting on the floor (http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470364)
(http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113541028)
6)Now reinstall bolt handle with a firm push,or lite tap with a soft face hammer. Move the
bolt back slowly to see if the springs and legs of action disc are lining up with the holes
correctly. (http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470589) If so,bolt handle should go all the way to the back of the bolt slot. Now finish turning the bumper screw while holding bolt all the way back. Make sure recess hole in bumper screw lines up with the hole for the receiver bumper retaining screw. (http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470603)
Note: Do not force bolt back as this will damage springs/action disc. If things are not lining up,a slight counter clockwise turn on the bumper screw will help while holding back lightly on
the bolt handle. (CAUTION) Do not turn bumper screw out to far,bumper screw and springs
will launch across the room.

7)Now finish installing safety,safety spring and the receiver bumper/safety retaining screw.
(http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470264)
(http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470241) Hope this helps out those who might be owners of the A1.

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Re: OLD MARLIN 22 AUTO

Postby 9945 » Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:08 am

tigweld wrote:9945,

Here you go for the disassembly/assembly of the Marlin A1. Note is for the A1 1st variation
which I own.
1)While the receiver/barrel is still in the stock,slide the bolt all the way back to the rear.
While pulling trigger,slowly move bolt forward. This will release the spring pressure on the hammer if the rifle is cocked. This will get away from "Dry Firing" the rifle.
2)Remove the magazine then receiver/barrel from the stock.

3)Remove the receiver bumper/safety retaining screw. Remove safety/safety spring.(http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470264)

4)Using a large screwdriver or coin,turn out receiver bumper screw counter clockwise a few
turns. (http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470273)

5)Turn out the bumper screw slowly by hand the rest of the way. (Caution) it is still under
some spring pressure so remove carefully. (http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470281)

6)After the bumper screw is out you'll see the action disc and the recoil/hammer springs.
(http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470364)

7)Remove the action disc and springs from the receiver.
(http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470404)

8 )Slide the bolt all the way back to the rear of the action slot.
(http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470489)

9)Grasping bolt handle with thumb and index finger,pull handle straight out from bolt.
(http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470507)

10)While pulling trigger,push on bolt face with finger and push bolt out of the receiver.
(http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470517)

11)Bolt and hammer out of the receiver. (http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113470540)
Note the holes in the back end of the bolt and hammer. Recoil spring,hammer spring and
legs of the action disc must be lined up with these during reassembly.
(http://www.pbase.com/tigweld/image/113498890)

Just, what I've been looking for...........GREAT PHOTOS.
Thanks

Will post reassembly instuctions in next posting.

Note: Author disclaims any responsibility for damage,accident or injury
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Re: OLD MARLIN 22 AUTO Disassembly/Assembly

Postby Greg63Beezer » Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:08 pm

Tigweld, I'd like to thank you so much. I acquired mine from a friend who just retired who was keeping if for his father-in-law who passed away in his 90's. I did figure out on my own how to disassemble it, but had no idea what model it was and what was missing. The old gent had really messed up the springs, hopefully those are available along with the pin in the trigger that goes against the sear.

I know this was an old post and I hope you wander by and catch my sincere thanks!

Best Regards,
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